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i came through the senate with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president. he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth. so he put forward a plan, a budget plan, that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing very well. what happened with that fair and balanced approach? what happened, the greatest prosperity in modern history. 23 million jobs, no more deficit, we got to a balanced budget, and i remember saying to my husband, what is going to happen -- it will not be any more government bonds because we will be out of the debt situation. we saw it on the horizon. when george w. bush became president, he decided to go back on rates across the board to the wealthiest to the middle to the poor and he put to ban all wars on a credit card and we are where we are -- to banwo isa credit card and here we are. we are coming out of
i came through the senate with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president. he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth. so he put forward a plan, a budget plan, that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing very well. what happened with that fair...
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clinton or ronald reagan they knew how to work the telephone. that's not happening here. >> it isn't. i think there's blame on both sides. one of the frustrations when i go to republican source on capitol hill they say the president is in the same place negotiation as he was 6 weeks ago that is to say you were right when there was spending problem. we are spending 1.2 trillion more than we take in. the amazing thing five, six weeks into the negotiations the president hasn't proposed a single spending cut. it is an amazing thing. >> this is what is so incredible. there isn't any discussion other than the blame game. i will talk about this later in the show the president seems to be winning on the blame game when you look at some of the polls. let me go back to this issue of not just what happens next week in the paycheck with you we have the debt ceiling $1.64 trillion december 31st. by the way it's not like they didn't know this stuff was coming. where have they been? >> i am glad you brought this issue up. that is the real financial cliff we fa
clinton or ronald reagan they knew how to work the telephone. that's not happening here. >> it isn't. i think there's blame on both sides. one of the frustrations when i go to republican source on capitol hill they say the president is in the same place negotiation as he was 6 weeks ago that is to say you were right when there was spending problem. we are spending 1.2 trillion more than we take in. the amazing thing five, six weeks into the negotiations the president hasn't proposed a...
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he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public blames the republicans when this happens when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have changed since last week, but it seemed like president obama was saying something that he was planning to say if it came down to the last few days. >> joy, is this the same kind of negotiation we saw in the first term? >> well, richard, one of the things that you didn't see the president do is to offer a new plan and he is laying the debacle at the feet squarely on congress and for the all to see where the dysfunction lies and the president helped himself by making offers that even his base was uncomfortable with, because it is fair to everyone that he is reasonable and trying to make the offers and t
he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public blames the republicans when this happens when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have...
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tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of deficit. that's because while we grew the -- under bush the taxes revenue went up 25%, and spending went up 100% in the last 12 years. if you put back the revenue from the higher taxes, you still have a deficit. that's what we're trying to change. >> we kind of are where we are, and no one is talking about spending cuts. they're talking about keeps taxes low, which everybody agrees. let me ask a specific question first to the democrats here. if they came out with with a deal that said, all right, we
tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you...
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she's not bill clinton's wife trying to reform health care. she's a woman positioned smartly on the world stage and it's been hawkish on many issues. tough to argue with. >> back to you steve for the offense. you're making your case. when will the etch-a-sketch come out? >> i i think it might be connected to this benghazi stuff. you started to hear some snide voices -- >> they nailed susan rice. they nailed the -- they were going after everybody but the secretary. >> but now when she had this concussion i heard some snide voices on the right about is this really a concussion -- >> you mean john bolton. >> i feel if she ends up testifying next month maybe that's the pivot point. if not then, it's going to be soon. i think it's a question of you have one major political party that devotes itself to tearing somebody down. doesn't mean she can't win in 2016. the reason she's at 70% is because a lot of republicans have forgotten they're not supposed to like the clintons. they will get that message in the next year or two. >> my respect for this sen
she's not bill clinton's wife trying to reform health care. she's a woman positioned smartly on the world stage and it's been hawkish on many issues. tough to argue with. >> back to you steve for the offense. you're making your case. when will the etch-a-sketch come out? >> i i think it might be connected to this benghazi stuff. you started to hear some snide voices -- >> they nailed susan rice. they nailed the -- they were going after everybody but the secretary. >> but...
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above that, people would revert to the level of taxes they had under bill clinton. so from 35% to 39.6%. that seems to be the first pillar, and that seems to be in place. beyond that, we come to this question of sequestration. that's pretty important because that goes into effect on january 2nd. republicans seem to be leaning towards saying we must deal with this in some fashion now, even if you're going to delay it, they seem to be talking more about things like a three-month delay, a short delay, and get right to it. democrats seem to want a longer delay. we don't know the details, but those are the two big pillars we're talking about tonight and upon which a deal may rest. >> there's no deal until it's finalized. let's bring in now the former speaker of the house of representatives, the former republican presidential candidate newt gingrich joining us on the phone. mr. speaker, thanks very much for joining us. if you were the current speaker right now, what would you do assuming the senate were to pass this agreement tonight? >> go home. i would just go home. i t
above that, people would revert to the level of taxes they had under bill clinton. so from 35% to 39.6%. that seems to be the first pillar, and that seems to be in place. beyond that, we come to this question of sequestration. that's pretty important because that goes into effect on january 2nd. republicans seem to be leaning towards saying we must deal with this in some fashion now, even if you're going to delay it, they seem to be talking more about things like a three-month delay, a short...
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there's cops in the schools program was initiated in the 1990s by bill clinton. u no whether an individual school wants that kind of protection or doesn't want that kind of protection is really up to the individual school. when we made that statement, when wayne lapierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen, and what should happen, is in every school district, administrators, teachers and parents should sit down and ask what's needed to protect the students in had that school. some will want police officers there. others of them will want private security guards. some places may want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions, but the fact is that is not a crazy suggestion. let's not get into an argument about who teachers unions are mostly interested in. but the fact of the matter is in some schools -- and we're not urging that teachers be armed, but some school districts are armed today. and if the school district and the teachers want to do it that way, that's really up to them it seems to me. >> that w
there's cops in the schools program was initiated in the 1990s by bill clinton. u no whether an individual school wants that kind of protection or doesn't want that kind of protection is really up to the individual school. when we made that statement, when wayne lapierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen, and what should happen, is in every school district, administrators, teachers and parents should sit down and ask what's needed to protect the students in had that...
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those with higher incomes would go back to the tax rates that prevailed when bill clinton was president. why the other side, you know, is horrified by that is perplexing to me. because i look back at the clint era, i was here. that's a long time ago. i was here. i came to the senate. with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president and he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, a debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth, and so he put forward a plan, a budget plan that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing very well. and what happened with that fair and balanced approach? what happened was the greatest prosperity in modern history. 23 million jobs, no more deficits, we got to a balanced budget and i remember saying to my husband my goodness, what's going to happen? there won't be any more u.s. government bonds because we're going to be out of the debt situation. we saw -- we saw
those with higher incomes would go back to the tax rates that prevailed when bill clinton was president. why the other side, you know, is horrified by that is perplexing to me. because i look back at the clint era, i was here. that's a long time ago. i was here. i came to the senate. with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president and he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, a debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth, and so...
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i came through the senate with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president. he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth. so he put forward a plan, a budget plan, that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing very well. what happened with that fair and balanced approach? what happened, the greatest prosperity in modern history. 23 million jobs, no more deficit, we got to a balanced budget, and i remember saying to my husband, what is going to happen -- it will not be any more government bonds because we will be out of the debt situation. we saw it on the horizon. when george w. bush became president, he decided to go back on rates across the board to the wealthiest to the middle to the poor and he put to ban all wars on a credit card and we are where we are -- two is on a credit card and here we are. we are coming out of
i came through the senate with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president. he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth. so he put forward a plan, a budget plan, that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing very well. what happened with that fair...
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he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say all along. >> it's almost like the white house is stepping out. i think we have some sound from mitch mcconnell talking about the next steps. let's see if we can run that out. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, if majority leader, myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> i'm going to do everything that i can, i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is -- whatever w
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and i was proud of my role in defeating the effort to throw bill clinton out of office, which was a right wing coup efrlt. >> what are your plans for the fu hur? i can't see you sitting by the beach with your feet in the water. >> i'm going to write a couple books. i'll be giving some speeches and i'll be honest, i look forward to getting paid fairly significant amounts of money for what i used to do for free. and then i hope to do some college teaching and, also, maybe a little bit of your line of work. it looks like you're having a good time. >> all right, mr. chairman. thank you for your time tonight. best of luck in your next endeavor and please come back on the show any time. any time. >> thank you, al. thank you. >> coming up, president obama singing. the revvie awards and one big out cry for change. you'll want to see this next. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit on
and i was proud of my role in defeating the effort to throw bill clinton out of office, which was a right wing coup efrlt. >> what are your plans for the fu hur? i can't see you sitting by the beach with your feet in the water. >> i'm going to write a couple books. i'll be giving some speeches and i'll be honest, i look forward to getting paid fairly significant amounts of money for what i used to do for free. and then i hope to do some college teaching and, also, maybe a little bit...
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of the government nder president clinton and speaker gingrich. we have hisexperience, also the experience as a member of the budget commission put together president clinton which came to nothing. just as the simpson bowles commission came to nothing. and as this fiscal clef being managed by his president does t look promising. >> that is really the point you brought up earlier. when you have european levels of spending which we now have come up you have traditional american tax rates, that cannot give. americans have a certain self-ima. canada, americans think of canada as a semi frnch socialist market. total governmenent spending in canada is about 42% of gdp. is now 41% in the united states commits of the difference between the sturdy, manley republic of limited government and self-reliance citizens and thesemi french monarchy is actually just down to 1%. we actually spend, government spends more per citizen on the average american than the french government does in the average frenchman. lou: i think you're being unfair to americans. we think
of the government nder president clinton and speaker gingrich. we have hisexperience, also the experience as a member of the budget commission put together president clinton which came to nothing. just as the simpson bowles commission came to nothing. and as this fiscal clef being managed by his president does t look promising. >> that is really the point you brought up earlier. when you have european levels of spending which we now have come up you have traditional american tax rates,...
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he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say a all along. >> take a listen to the president's tone and tell me if you think somebody has changed. >> ordinary folks. they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> joy, is this is same kind of negotiator we saw in the first term? >> i'll tell you, richard. one of the things you notice that the president didn't do was offer any new plan. i think he's laying this debacle squarely
he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been...
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bill clinton ran ads attacking him for breaking his pledge. since the pledge is a public piece of information the press goes after you if you break the pledge. your local voters go after you. your democratic opponent calls you a fibber. the pledge is self-enforcing. if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. so harry reid misunderstands, the american people don't want taxes raised. they realize that spending is the problem, spending needs to come down. tax increases get in the way of spending restraight. >> i want to bring stephen moore back into the conversation. a lot of people don't like grover norquist you've defended him. you come from the same place in a lot of things. here's where i take issue. he said increasing taxes avoids the conversation on having the spending discussion. i said i don't think that's causal. i think we can agree we're not having a robust-enough conversation on how to deal with
bill clinton ran ads attacking him for breaking his pledge. since the pledge is a public piece of information the press goes after you if you break the pledge. your local voters go after you. your democratic opponent calls you a fibber. the pledge is self-enforcing. if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. so harry reid misunderstands, the american...
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clinton, the caucus viewed him as the leader of their revolution. he had -- he could move that caucus. that is not what boehner is doing here. first of all, bill is right, boehner wasn't the leader of this revolution. and he -- and he is going to -- and he wants to get reelected as speaker and the only way for him to do that is to put the hastert rule aside, get republicans a path, let them vote no. why, so they won't be primaried by tea party activists and that s what they are afraid of. these people are not afraid -- >> sean: that is inside politics. the american people should be -- >> that is what is going on. >> sean: we will see. i will tell you one other outrage here. while the american people have been struggling and suffering and generational theft is going on what did we see obama is ordering pay raises for biden and members of congress and federal workers and nobody is talking about our healthcare taxes going up, billy cunningham. how in good conscience do they do this at this time? >> sean hannity, the people are taking this in the shorts
clinton, the caucus viewed him as the leader of their revolution. he had -- he could move that caucus. that is not what boehner is doing here. first of all, bill is right, boehner wasn't the leader of this revolution. and he -- and he is going to -- and he wants to get reelected as speaker and the only way for him to do that is to put the hastert rule aside, get republicans a path, let them vote no. why, so they won't be primaried by tea party activists and that s what they are afraid of. these...
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the senate has to sign a bill over there. >> larry, our feel something this. we have done everything we can to get this issue resolved in the right way for every american. let's start with the attitude of having a budget. as you know, we passed a budget for the past two years. we have passed measures to control spending and have fought hard to approach it responsibly. when the president brought those good people together today i thought he was going to apologize to them for the fact that this lack of leadership has led us to this cliff. >> if you get some kind of bill, i don't know what it is either. but if it is $450,000 and the amt is passed permanently and a lot of good things better than we hoped for. and let's say for argument's sake. there is a 20 or $30 billion spending cut. maybe it is see questers, could you vote for that kind of bill? >> i want to move forward larry if that is the best that we can do under these circumstances i would support that kind of a bill, but believe me, i think i can share this sentiment. we could do so much better. we need a
the senate has to sign a bill over there. >> larry, our feel something this. we have done everything we can to get this issue resolved in the right way for every american. let's start with the attitude of having a budget. as you know, we passed a budget for the past two years. we have passed measures to control spending and have fought hard to approach it responsibly. when the president brought those good people together today i thought he was going to apologize to them for the fact that...
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because bill clinton had bill cohen. so he's getting hit from so many different sides. >> he's getting -- and he's getting hit from republicans. he's getting hit from every side. i think it was an obtuse choice. and what the white house has done in floating his name and then being m.i.a. so, yeah, chuck hagel's nomination is d.o.a., and in the meantime, the white house is m.i.a. he's got to work really, really hard to find a nominee who is offensive to democrat-based constituencies like gay advocates, like israel advocates, like environmentalists and who is also offensive to republicans. you really have to work hard to find that combination. >> i think that's a totally strong point. he has no one in his corner, basically, except the president. >> and you talked about bill cohen as secretary of defense. did you know bill cohen got nominated and approved, unanimously, by the u.s. senate? >> john kerry is liked by more republicans than this guy. >> chuck schumer won't support -- >> a very different time. but we've got a rec
because bill clinton had bill cohen. so he's getting hit from so many different sides. >> he's getting -- and he's getting hit from republicans. he's getting hit from every side. i think it was an obtuse choice. and what the white house has done in floating his name and then being m.i.a. so, yeah, chuck hagel's nomination is d.o.a., and in the meantime, the white house is m.i.a. he's got to work really, really hard to find a nominee who is offensive to democrat-based constituencies like...
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. >>> joining me, doug shawn, former pollster for president bill clinton. nancy, media speaks strategy and national spokesperson to senator john mccain. >>> the president goes on "meet the press" and claims it's the fault of the awful republicans and that angers mcconnell, who lashes back out. so that was clearly a calculated risk by the president, angrying your opponent versus pressuring him publicly to cave. which way does it go? >> we don't know. we're all pretty pessimistic given the breakdown the talks today but i think the president's strategy is to keep constant pressure on the republicans, recognizing this battle is not going to be over whether or not there's a deal. it's going to go on dealing with the debt sciele and the budget and the president is not letting up. he said he won the election and that's how econducting himself. the polls are pretty clear that he's got the upper hand. >> nancy, i read your column. you thing the president doesn't really negotiate, he demands and threatens and lectures and what was that on "meet the press," posturing?
. >>> joining me, doug shawn, former pollster for president bill clinton. nancy, media speaks strategy and national spokesperson to senator john mccain. >>> the president goes on "meet the press" and claims it's the fault of the awful republicans and that angers mcconnell, who lashes back out. so that was clearly a calculated risk by the president, angrying your opponent versus pressuring him publicly to cave. which way does it go? >> we don't know. we're all...
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they should have built a very big national campaign the way bill clinton was able to do. thank you, rana foroohar. and thank you, steve kornacki, as always, my colleague from the network we both serve. thank you. see you all in the next year. >>> up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done, and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> there's been a lot of talk about gun laws since the shootings in newtown, connecticut. one result seems to be increased support for tougher gun laws. 58% of americans polled say they want to see stricter gun laws as opposed to 34% who wants things kept the way they are. compare that to a year ago when only 43% wanted to see stricter laws. it's worth remembering, however, that support for tougher laws often spikes and then fades after mass shootings. of course, the nra always stands in the way of any new or reviewed restrictions, but, of course, we all know that. and we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to
they should have built a very big national campaign the way bill clinton was able to do. thank you, rana foroohar. and thank you, steve kornacki, as always, my colleague from the network we both serve. thank you. see you all in the next year. >>> up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done, and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics....
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. >> well, bill clinton's been a winner for awhile. but i think what he did for the president particularly in that dnc speech which was just unbelievable. laying out the case saying here are some of the attacks on this president. here's why they're completely unfounded in doing it in simple language. it really was incredible both for his own legacy and image and also for hillary and family. >> certainly. that's the key. >> certainly for the president. >> when you look at '08, he was not a winner. he came off very badly and lost a lot of support on the base. had guys like me taking real shots at him. and this year, he really came on strong. i think he has to be considered a winner this year. >> and think about all of charlotte. by the time president clinton gave his fantastic speech, those folks were fired up and ready to go. they wanted to hear that. they needed to hear that message. >> you know, they made them hungry for more clinton. made it clinton 2016. >> i can watch that speech every day, personally. >> let's turn to the revvie t
. >> well, bill clinton's been a winner for awhile. but i think what he did for the president particularly in that dnc speech which was just unbelievable. laying out the case saying here are some of the attacks on this president. here's why they're completely unfounded in doing it in simple language. it really was incredible both for his own legacy and image and also for hillary and family. >> certainly. that's the key. >> certainly for the president. >> when you look at...
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anyone above that level will see an increase going back to the bill clinton era rates. so that's about 39.6%. on other kinds of tax issues, they've made a change now so that the alternative minimum tax, which affects many people, that that would save a number of middle class people from being affected by that. also, some changes to the estate tax. so if there is an inheritance in your family, or if there is passing on of a family farm or a business, that will be key for people there. those are things republicans wanted very much. and to some degree, some democrats too. but the key thing for democrats was to try to preserve elements like unemployment benefits for those who have been out of work the longest. that stays in here there are other kind of tax credits that will affect more middle income people. but some of the pushback we've been hearing from democrats, and a lot of it has been coming from democrats is a concern that they had hoped that those tax rates would kick in at the level the president had campaigned on, $250,000. so the president had compromised. republ
anyone above that level will see an increase going back to the bill clinton era rates. so that's about 39.6%. on other kinds of tax issues, they've made a change now so that the alternative minimum tax, which affects many people, that that would save a number of middle class people from being affected by that. also, some changes to the estate tax. so if there is an inheritance in your family, or if there is passing on of a family farm or a business, that will be key for people there. those are...
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most issues but on the welfare reform under bill clinton. i didn't totally agree with what he was doing and i was the co chair here at the house. i thought that was pretty good, it was my second term and they named me co-chair. i think they did it because i was a welfare mother. they had no idea don't make made co-chair and expect me to be quiet. i would go to the floor and i would talk about it and i would use my experience. i would hear on the other side of the aisle and they would say yes, but she's different. i wasn't different. i was the actual example of what a welfare mom could be if given the chance. >> we're almost out of time but i wanted to ask, 95%, 96% of congress gets re-elected. do you think congressional seats should be more competitive? >> they are competitive? we run every two years. how more competitive could it be than to be on the block every two years and under the microscope of your constituents? in my district, i don't know about this one because we haven't gotten the numbers but in the first obama election we had 93.
most issues but on the welfare reform under bill clinton. i didn't totally agree with what he was doing and i was the co chair here at the house. i thought that was pretty good, it was my second term and they named me co-chair. i think they did it because i was a welfare mother. they had no idea don't make made co-chair and expect me to be quiet. i would go to the floor and i would talk about it and i would use my experience. i would hear on the other side of the aisle and they would say yes,...
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i'm joined by robert reich, former secretary of labor under president bill clinton. now professor of public policy at uc berkeley and author of "beyond outrage." i don't know how far beyond outrage you can get than this, mr. reich. can there be little doubt that this will go down as one of the most obstructive congresses ever, including what we're going through right now, which is more than ludicrous, is just ridiculous. >> one has to look very far into history to find a congress that is at least as unproductive, as sort of paralyzed as this congress. i would say, basically, back to the 1940s. harry truman had a congress that he accused as being a do-nothing congress. well, the 112th congress just ending is probably worse. >> and that's searching through history with a keen eye. let's not forget last year's debt ceiling debacle, which president obama has vowed never to repeat. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way
i'm joined by robert reich, former secretary of labor under president bill clinton. now professor of public policy at uc berkeley and author of "beyond outrage." i don't know how far beyond outrage you can get than this, mr. reich. can there be little doubt that this will go down as one of the most obstructive congresses ever, including what we're going through right now, which is more than ludicrous, is just ridiculous. >> one has to look very far into history to find a...
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bill clinton ran millions of dollars of ads attacking him for breaking his pledge. so since the pledge is a public piece of information, the press goes after you if you break the pledge, your local voters go after you, your democratic opponent calls you a fibber. the pledge is self-enforcing. if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still -- they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. so harry reid is -- misunderstands. the american people don't want taxes raised. they realize spending problem s the problem and needs to come down. tax increases get in the way of spending restraint. >> steven moore, i don't know if grover is the most powerful unelected man in washington or the most polarizing. a lot of people don't like him. you've defended him. herewhat he said and where i take issue. he said increases taxes avoids the conversation on having the spending discussion. and i said i don't think that's causal. i think we can all agree we're not having a robust e
bill clinton ran millions of dollars of ads attacking him for breaking his pledge. so since the pledge is a public piece of information, the press goes after you if you break the pledge, your local voters go after you, your democratic opponent calls you a fibber. the pledge is self-enforcing. if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still -- they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me....
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they should have built a very big national campaign the way bill clinton was able to do. thank you, rana foroohar. and thank you, steve kornacki, as always, my colleague from the network we both serve. thank you. see you all in the next year. >>> up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done, and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to
they should have built a very big national campaign the way bill clinton was able to do. thank you, rana foroohar. and thank you, steve kornacki, as always, my colleague from the network we both serve. thank you. see you all in the next year. >>> up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done, and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. to the...
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clinton. >> bill chase and how the clinton's relationship benefit in the political ambitions. that is tonight at 10:00 eastern. that continues squadder days of nonfiction authors on booktv. -- four days of nonfiction authors on booktv. "washington journal" continues. host: we're back with george zornick. what you think of this deal was reached in the senate last night? caller: is a crazy time we live in. what happened last night is absent of meaning without the or thent's signature house. you had the sequester go into effect, which would raise $1.20 trillion in revenue or save as much to budget savings. what congress is doing now, what the senate did last night, is basically undo quite a bit of that deficit reduction. the will and do quite a bit of the tax cuts, but will put up the sequester, so while there are playing these deficit gains and and doing a lot of the work, it is happening in the context of what is a real jobs crisis in this country. they are paying -- aire playing these deficit kings back and forth, while the real crisis is unemployment. host: not -- a bad deal?
clinton. >> bill chase and how the clinton's relationship benefit in the political ambitions. that is tonight at 10:00 eastern. that continues squadder days of nonfiction authors on booktv. -- four days of nonfiction authors on booktv. "washington journal" continues. host: we're back with george zornick. what you think of this deal was reached in the senate last night? caller: is a crazy time we live in. what happened last night is absent of meaning without the or thent's...
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it would set the tax rate our income people at 39.6%, the rate under former president bill clinton. estates would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extended a year, as would the medicare doc fix and it would permanently fix the alternative minimum tax. a big concern for republicans is there are no new spending cuts. >> history has a way of repeating itself. somehow washington never gets the message and here we are 30 years later on the brink of another crisis on new year's eve still addicted to spending money. >> this has been a long road with a lot of frustration and many people are wondering why it took so long to reach a deal. we're joined now by fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin and mark, as we know, for a bill to become law both houses have to pass. it the house is not voting today. they've gone home. we don't know when the senate will vote. what does this all mean? >> what it means is that mitch mcconnell and joe biden rather than the majority leader harry reid, the minority leader mitch mcc
it would set the tax rate our income people at 39.6%, the rate under former president bill clinton. estates would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extended a year, as would the medicare doc fix and it would permanently fix the alternative minimum tax. a big concern for republicans is there are no new spending cuts. >> history has a way of repeating itself. somehow washington never gets the message and...
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the top rate under bill clinton was 39.6. the logic of limiting tax increases to people over $400,000 in income is that would affect one of the rates. the trading range is between 35 and 39.6 for the top rate. >> laurie, i want to put something up from your article in the washington post. one part got a lot of our attention. i'll read it. as night fall approached top democratic and republican aids shoved the latest proposals between the two leaders offices about 60 steps apart. now for folks who cover washington, they may understand this is how negotiations take place, this is how work gets done. it seemed asinine that these two offices are this close together, the two men are in washington and they are not sitting down in washington having a negotiation, talking face-to-face, you have paperwork going back and forth. is that just how things get done? is it process or a shame as well? >> it's a little -- they were working at yesterday, yeah, it's how things get done. harry reid wasn't at the capital yesterday. mitch mcconnell
the top rate under bill clinton was 39.6. the logic of limiting tax increases to people over $400,000 in income is that would affect one of the rates. the trading range is between 35 and 39.6 for the top rate. >> laurie, i want to put something up from your article in the washington post. one part got a lot of our attention. i'll read it. as night fall approached top democratic and republican aids shoved the latest proposals between the two leaders offices about 60 steps apart. now for...
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and even the greatest presidents, let's be clear, ronald reagan and bill clinton, they sold their initial deals in the first year. and it was close. it was one, two, three votes. it was very tight. but they did it, and they pushed and they pushed on both the wholesale and retail side. >> i don't think you can have the congressmen over too often. i think they should be there sleeping with you if you want them to be. >> well, that could have some people in trouble. >> i didn't quite mean that. >> you know, the civil war era, doris -- >> but i think he finally has made it sufficient at least that the inside game didn't work. >> but let's make sure we are about to come up on the most -- the least productive congress in history. we have 218 bills this congress has passed. the lowest number since this has been tracked. the lowest number before that was 333. let's go through the highlights of this congress. no farm bill. by the way, the debacle we saw on the senate on the u.n. disability treaty right in front of bob dole. that was just a bizarre moment, if you will. this fiscal cliff. three budg
and even the greatest presidents, let's be clear, ronald reagan and bill clinton, they sold their initial deals in the first year. and it was close. it was one, two, three votes. it was very tight. but they did it, and they pushed and they pushed on both the wholesale and retail side. >> i don't think you can have the congressmen over too often. i think they should be there sleeping with you if you want them to be. >> well, that could have some people in trouble. >> i didn't...
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clinton win a democratic party because they do tend to favor economic outcomes and they're ought to control economic outcomes that's their main focus think of the unionized police officers and progressives are an entirely different beast and these are the people, the typical tree hugging san francisco liberals these are the people that interested in not just economic outcomes but also social outcomes. they talk about drugs and sex how progressives are talking about whether or not you can put salt on your french fries and whether or not you can have a plastic bag or drink a soda. michael bloomberg a great example, he is banning the cuts in new york city. so that and we are talking about, that ideology on the left, the progressive ideology. swatter some of the mifsud are commonly held by today's progress of squawks i've got about five myths that we tend to focus on the first to because those are the big juicy ideas and the bad ideas one is the natural things are good and number two, on the natural things are bad. number three, unchecked science will destroy us. number four, science is
clinton win a democratic party because they do tend to favor economic outcomes and they're ought to control economic outcomes that's their main focus think of the unionized police officers and progressives are an entirely different beast and these are the people, the typical tree hugging san francisco liberals these are the people that interested in not just economic outcomes but also social outcomes. they talk about drugs and sex how progressives are talking about whether or not you can put...
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bill clinton, 167. george w. bush, 173. and then president obama through november 5 2012, i guess the day of the election, had 311 -- 3 10789 why such a jump between president carter and president obama? is it just the cost of running these campaigns? is it television ads? writes all this money going if guest: it's a very good question. if you want to understand what presidents do, you have to think about what the rules of the system are that incentivize their action. so the rise in fundraising is really a story about the consequence of campaign reform. if you want to empty your let to a presidential candidate, you could give them $25,000. over the last few decades, campaign costs have exploded. the rational is that -- rationale is that we want to have small amount offense money to limit corruption or the appearance of corruption. so the idea is if i can only get a certain amount of money from you, and every person i know, i'm not going to be behold on every certain but with rising president costs, the president is spending
bill clinton, 167. george w. bush, 173. and then president obama through november 5 2012, i guess the day of the election, had 311 -- 3 10789 why such a jump between president carter and president obama? is it just the cost of running these campaigns? is it television ads? writes all this money going if guest: it's a very good question. if you want to understand what presidents do, you have to think about what the rules of the system are that incentivize their action. so the rise in fundraising...
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and 1993 under bill clinton, the democrat, these were the last two tax hikes we had and both times there was a ban led by gring rich in '93. they said you can't raise the rates. it won't bring in revenue. it will kill jobs and plunge us into a second recession. there's incredible footage of gingrich and saying this and i look back to the 1990's and not only did we have the longest sustained period of the growth in the postwar era we had shrinking deficits. >> but the reason for that was because of tdot com boom. >> but the claim was that raising these rates would make it impossible for the economy to grow. >> the problem is all we're talking about is raising taxes. this is a political pro if i for the president. we're not talking about the real issue of cutting spending. why is that not part of the conversation? >> i'm curious as to what we could cut spending. at the in a moment nondefense discretionary spending is almost cut to the bone. any more and you're knocking millions of kids and old people off of programs and resources. when it comes to entitlements we've already cut under the a
and 1993 under bill clinton, the democrat, these were the last two tax hikes we had and both times there was a ban led by gring rich in '93. they said you can't raise the rates. it won't bring in revenue. it will kill jobs and plunge us into a second recession. there's incredible footage of gingrich and saying this and i look back to the 1990's and not only did we have the longest sustained period of the growth in the postwar era we had shrinking deficits. >> but the reason for that was...
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those with higher incomes would go back to the tax rates that prevailed when bill clinton was president. why the other side, you know, is horrified by that is perplexing to me. because i look back at the clint era, i was here. that's a long time ago. i was here. i came to the senate. with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president and he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, a debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth, and so he put forward a plan, a budget plan that invested in our people, invested in the infrastructure, invested in education, and at the same time said we can find cuts in other areas and we can raise taxes on those who are doing veryell. and what happed with that fair and balanced approach? what happened was the greatest prosperity in modern history. 23 million jobs, no more deficits, we got to a balanced budget and i remember saying to my husband my goodness, what's going to hpen? there won't be any more u.s. government bonds because we're going to be out of the debt situation. we saw -- we saw it on
those with higher incomes would go back to the tax rates that prevailed when bill clinton was president. why the other side, you know, is horrified by that is perplexing to me. because i look back at the clint era, i was here. that's a long time ago. i was here. i came to the senate. with senator feinstein when bill clinton was president and he faced similar issues in that we had a deficit that was getting out of control, a debt that was getting out of control. we needed to have growth, and so...
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with bill clinton and had two. so he started to use executive orders to create all sorts of national monuments around the country. you start every field, whether it's dealing with the environment, the role of big business, we will checkmark these off. president obama has had two supreme court justices put in. probably will have a third and maybe a fourth, which means the influence of the supreme court of barack obama could be with us for generations. >> shannon: douglas brinkley, always nice to get the historical insight. thawferg. >> thanks. >> shannon: still to come on america's news headquarters. of the: a last-ditch effort to get a deal done. the ball is in the senate's court. can the leaders there come up with a fiscal plan that the house republicans would put up to a vote? we will talk to two senators. >> could a shrimp cost you your property? the obama administration rolls out a mountain of proposed legislation, is this the epa run amok. if you shop online, brace yourself, prices could be going up. congress
with bill clinton and had two. so he started to use executive orders to create all sorts of national monuments around the country. you start every field, whether it's dealing with the environment, the role of big business, we will checkmark these off. president obama has had two supreme court justices put in. probably will have a third and maybe a fourth, which means the influence of the supreme court of barack obama could be with us for generations. >> shannon: douglas brinkley, always...
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credit to hammar congresswoman, and for intervening on his behalf and to our colleague, bill o'reilly, for loudly advocating for hammar's release. >>> while secretary clinton con have lesses from concussion, president obama is not standing on ceremony. president rry, you're up. "the a-team" is next. >>> who else could be a gun owner while creating all sorts of anti-gun propaganda in his movies and then, finally, linking gun ownership to racism? michael moore? you guessed it. >>> contraception. cath thick -- catholics and the high court, the battle between church and state, also put your money on catholic league president bill donahue. bill donahue. we do are and he is i look up to a lot of the older heads, you know, the innovators, the heads of the art movements of the past. they kept it really edgy, and, like, a lot of the latin american muralists and the latin american artists, their styles are very unique and new to their time, you know, somewhat controversial, but that's who i look up to mainly. personally, i'm very excited about going to college. it's something new, and it's some
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bill clinton was not going to sign the bill. bill clinton was put in a difficult position. so we got it passed. i was the author in the house and the jesse helms was the author in the senate and we worked together on the bill along with my cuban-american brands. >> that regime is still around. at the time, a number of our allies protested the bill. in the rearview mirror, how effective was it overall? do you feel good about that? >> it shows the repression is so strong in cuba, the ability of fidel castro to reach out to some of his "friends" around the world that he has been able to circumvent sanctions. i think we ought to do everything we can to bring freedom to the people of cuba. the helms-burton law was not as effective as i would have liked. >> another issue out you are associated with is autism. how did that get started? >> my grandson was a very normal child. when he was 18 months to two years old, he got nine shots in one day. seven of which had thimerosol, mercury. it is a preservative. never been tested. in 1929 it was tested on the 29 people who had meningitis.
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but that painful to fuful tox s going to be tough to get over, but the name bill clinton comes to mind when you look at successful politicians remaking themselves. >> katon dawson, south carolina, appreciate it so much. see you at the silver dollar in charleston, my friend. >> absolutely, thank you, luke. >>> next, brand new information about what house republicans will be doing tomorrow. >>> plus, the bitter battle of president obama's second-term cabinet. you don't even have to be a nominee to be scoured these days. politico briefing is next, jake sherman, don't want to miss that. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the president cannot -- this white house cannot continue to float trial balloons and then not have them shot down. the president can't get perceived to being rolled by opponents. the problem that chu
but that painful to fuful tox s going to be tough to get over, but the name bill clinton comes to mind when you look at successful politicians remaking themselves. >> katon dawson, south carolina, appreciate it so much. see you at the silver dollar in charleston, my friend. >> absolutely, thank you, luke. >>> next, brand new information about what house republicans will be doing tomorrow. >>> plus, the bitter battle of president obama's second-term cabinet. you...
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credit to hammar's congresswoman, and for intervening on his behalf and to our colleague, bill o'reilly, for loudly advocating for hammar's release. >>> while secretary clinton con have lesses from concussion, president obama is not standing on ceremony. president kerry, you're up. "the a-team" is next. >>> who else could be a gun owner while creating all sorts of anti-gun propaganda in his movies and then, finally, linking gun ownership to racism? michael moore? you guessed it. >>> contraception. cath thick -- catholics and the high court, the battle between church and state, also put your money on catholic league president bill donahue. bill donahue. we do are and he is look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhale
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cops in the school program was initiated in the 1990s by bill clinton. whether an individual school wants that protection or doesn't want that protection is really up to the individual school and when we made that statement, whether wayne la pierre spoke a week ago, what has to happen and should happen is in every school district, administrators, teacher skpes parents should sit down and ask what's needed to protect the students in that school. others want private security guards. there may be places where they want volunteers to do it. we are willing to work with everybody on the questions. >> how do educators feel about giving teachers firearms training? bob hinky is a principal at mountain crest high school. how do you feel about this? >> well, i think the teachers have that right and so i feel like it's okay, but i have some things i'm very concerned about. i personally wouldn't carry a gun or get a concealed weapon myself. the concerns i have is the concealed weapons, i have a friend who just received his a couple of years ago and through the traini
cops in the school program was initiated in the 1990s by bill clinton. whether an individual school wants that protection or doesn't want that protection is really up to the individual school and when we made that statement, whether wayne la pierre spoke a week ago, what has to happen and should happen is in every school district, administrators, teacher skpes parents should sit down and ask what's needed to protect the students in that school. others want private security guards. there may be...
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so to go back to the tax provisions that we had under bill clinton doesn't frighten me one bit. but now we hear the same song and dance from the republicans. if we do that, the sky's going to fall. the world will end tomorrow. the markets will just go all to heck. we heard that in 1993, and it was wrong. we're hearing it again today about what will happen if we go back to the clinton-era tax provisions. they say the sky's going to fall. they're wrong again. they're just wrong again. so i for one am not -- do not fear going back to a system of taxation that basically worked very well for our country. the bush tax cuts that messed everything up for ten years. few people got very rich but kept the middle class from advancing any at all. so again, this idea that somehow a deal is going to be cooked up that's going to make permanent -- permanent -- all these tax advantages that people had over the last ten years and that they have now in estate taxes are going to make that permanent somehow does not sit well with this senator. and yet, everything else, when we're talking about unempl
so to go back to the tax provisions that we had under bill clinton doesn't frighten me one bit. but now we hear the same song and dance from the republicans. if we do that, the sky's going to fall. the world will end tomorrow. the markets will just go all to heck. we heard that in 1993, and it was wrong. we're hearing it again today about what will happen if we go back to the clinton-era tax provisions. they say the sky's going to fall. they're wrong again. they're just wrong again. so i for...
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bill clinton was put in a difficult position. i was the author in the house and the jesse helms was the author in the senate and we worked together on the bill along with my cuban-american brands. >> that regime is still around. at the time, a number of our allies protested the bill. in the rearview mirror, how effective was it overall? do you feel good about that? >> it shows the repression is so strong in cuba, the ability of fidel castro to reach out to some of his "friends" around the world that he has been able to circumvent sanctions. i think we ought to do everything we can to bring freedom to the people of cuba. the helms-burton law was not as effective as i would have liked. >> another issue out you are associated with is autism. how did that get started? >> my grandson was a very normal child. when he was 18 months to two years old, he got nine shots in one day. seven of which had thimerosol, mercury. it is a preservative. in 1929 it was tested on the 29 people who had meningitis. they said that the mercury had no impac
bill clinton was put in a difficult position. i was the author in the house and the jesse helms was the author in the senate and we worked together on the bill along with my cuban-american brands. >> that regime is still around. at the time, a number of our allies protested the bill. in the rearview mirror, how effective was it overall? do you feel good about that? >> it shows the repression is so strong in cuba, the ability of fidel castro to reach out to some of his...
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congress does have a compromise on the farm bill. without it it was worried that no prices to jump as high as $8 per gallon. secretary of state hillary clinton remaining in new york presbyterian hospital. being treated for a blood clot. she expects to stay at the hospital another two days to be treated with blood thinner. companies officially leaving bankruptcy, a new board will be named as the company in its 4-year journey from chapter 11. that's the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power prosper. cheryl: we are getting some crucial breaking news on the fiscal cliff discussion. this learning from the white house the president is going to address the country. 130 eastern time. that is about 45 minutes from now. obviously the president is calling to make some type of statement. it is going to be about the fiscal cliff, and he will be surrounded with middle-class americans. we are also getting reports right now, there are some details that are emerging about what a deal could possibly be looking or looking like at t
congress does have a compromise on the farm bill. without it it was worried that no prices to jump as high as $8 per gallon. secretary of state hillary clinton remaining in new york presbyterian hospital. being treated for a blood clot. she expects to stay at the hospital another two days to be treated with blood thinner. companies officially leaving bankruptcy, a new board will be named as the company in its 4-year journey from chapter 11. that's the latest from the fox business network,...